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by Chris Miller at 04:08:09 PM on Thursday, January 7th, 2010
Sametime 8.5 as as have all hopefully learned, includes quite a bit of Websphere for the meeting services.  Yet, it does still have the chat and presence on Domino.  The portion of Sametime 8.5 that runs only on Domino, and does include meeting services as we know them today will be called, wait for it....wait for it...
Sametime Classic


That is right.  Like an old car, you now run a Classic infrastructure (link to naming and technotes).  Time to think about trading up for the new model.  Then again that requires more insurance and a new loan, oil changes, tires and brakes.

  • 1) A Sametime 8.5 product name change you might want to be aware of
    Created by Volker Weber at 1/7/2010 4:37:08 PM email | website

    Serious?

  • 2) A Sametime 8.5 product name change you might want to be aware of
    Created by Craig Wiseman at 1/7/2010 4:38:50 PM email | website

    could be worse

    could be "Sametime Legacy".

  • 3) A Sametime 8.5 product name change you might want to be aware of
    Created by Chris Miller at 1/7/2010 4:59:38 PM email | website

    Here are a couple nice links showing you.. straight from IBM and technotes

    { Link }

  • 4) A Sametime 8.5 product name change you might want to be aware of
    Created by Lissette Arenas at 1/7/2010 5:02:37 PM email |

    could be "Sametime Standard" AND "Sametime Basic" -- that would be better, right?

    Wait a minute.....

  • 5) A Sametime 8.5 product name change you might want to be aware of
    Created by Mathias Persson at 1/7/2010 5:39:30 PM email | website

    Yay... But it's a classy classic, that's for sure!

  • 6) No - it is Sametime Classic Meetings
    Created by ports at 1/7/2010 6:59:54 PM email | website

    Just to be clear Chris - it is not "Sametime Classic" - it is "Sametime Classic Meetings". This is to define the difference between the new 8.5 Sametime Meeting service (on Websphere) and the previous Meeting service (on Domino). It is important to have two names since they are both going to be supported so we need to know which is which.

    The other Sametime capabilities (Enterprise IM, Presence etc) continue to run on Domino and are still refered to as the Sametime Community Server. The confusion may have arisen because it iwill be possible (and for some existing customers very desirable) to run the Community Server and Classic Meeting Server on the same Domino Box.

    To summerize: Sametime on Domino is not "Classic". Just the Sametime Meeting Server on Domino.

    See here: { Link }

  • 7) A Sametime 8.5 product name change you might want to be aware of
    Created by Chris Miller at 1/7/2010 7:30:19 PM email | website

    While it makes sense it might be easier actually to just use Classic since now you have Sametime, Sametime Classic Meetings on Domino and Sametime Meetings?

    Add in Sametime Entry, Sametime Limited Use, Sametime Standard, Sametime Advanced, Sametime Gateway (did I miss something?).

  • 8) A Sametime 8.5 product name change you might want to be aware of
    Created by Volker Weber at 1/8/2010 3:49:46 AM email | website

    Naming is the hardest part ... The basic/standard configuration does not stick. We refer to classic Notes as Notes, and to new Notes as boat anchor.

  • 9) A Sametime 8.5 product name change you might want to be aware of
    Created by Craig Wiseman at 1/8/2010 8:17:45 AM email | website

    no, no. Not "boat anchor".

    "Large Ferrous Metal Mass used to keep Lighter than water vessels from moving, Xpeditor edition"

  • 10) A Sametime 8.5 product name change you might want to be aware of
    Created by Rock at 1/8/2010 11:39:09 AM email | website

    Why muddy the waters? Why obfuscate what these products are and do? I thought Lotus/IBM learned their lesson the LAST time they tried to rename Sametime and Quickplace (Quickr is ok, it is a derivative of Quickplace), but I know IBM/Lotus has a very short corporate memory (reminds me of the memory of a goldfish).

    Just call them Sametime Community, Sametime Meetings on Domino, and Sametime Meetings on Websphere.

    Geesh...

    --Rock

  • 11) A Sametime 8.5 product name change you might want to be aware of
    Created by Paul Mooney at 1/11/2010 11:41:57 AM email | website

    hmm - Sametime community.. good

    Sametime meetings on websphere - STW.. good

    Sametime meetings on domino - STD.. priceless. ;)

    Sorry, its been a long day.


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